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Lights, Camera, Transformation: The Road to ViVE 2026 in LA

Episode Notes

One week until ViVE 2026 in Los Angeles. Join Megan Antonelli, John Lynn, Shereese Maynard, and Janae Sharp as they preview what matters for the 9,000 healthcare technology executives heading to the premier digital health event.

We're breaking down the sessions positioning real dollars: the $50 billion rural health fund, AI governance becoming board-level priority, cybersecurity shifting to enterprise risk, and interoperability moving from advantage to table stakes. Which technologies are moving from pilot to procurement? Which partnerships signal strategic shifts? What should CIOs, CMIOs, and CDIOs prioritize?

Strategic insights that turn conference attendance into a competitive advantage. Your ViVE briefing starts here.

John Lynn, Founder, Healthcare IT Today

Shereese Maynard, MS, MBA, askshereese.tech

Janae Sharp, Founder, The Sharp Index

Megan Antonelli, Chief Executive Officer, HealthIMPACT

 

Episode Transcription

00:00:00 Intro: Welcome to digital health talks. Each week we meet with healthcare leaders making an immeasurable difference in equity, access and quality. Hear about what tech is worth investing in and what isn't as we focus on the innovations that deliver. Join Megan Antonelli, Jenny Sharp and Shahid Shah for a weekly no BS deep dive on what's really making an impact in healthcare.

00:00:29 Megan Antonelli: Welcome to digital health talks. This is Megan Antonelli, CEO of Health Impact Live and your host of Digital Health Talks with Viv twenty twenty six just one week away. I've brought together three friends and health IT conference pros to help you cut through the noise before you hit the floor in LA. Joining me today, John Lin, founder of Healthcare Scene, which includes the health IT TODAY.com and Sway Health Communities. Jenny Sharp, founder of the Sharp Index and a relentless advocate for outcomes that actually matter. And Cherise Menard, health IT strategist and straight talking voice on what's working and what's just hype. We are here to help you walk away with a five plan. And I'm going to turn it over to my friend Janae who's going to ask us questions and lead the conversation today. Hi, Jenny.

00:01:18 Janae Sharp: Hi, Megan. How are you?

00:01:20 Megan Antonelli: Oh I'm good. Thanks for being here.

00:01:22 Janae Sharp: I'm thrilled. And I'm thrilled to talk about how to plan to have the best time you've ever had at ViVE. So we're thrilled today to sit down and talk about upcoming events. Five we're sitting down with experts in the industry. Everyone, we need to know who you are, how many times you've been to ViVE, and one thing you're looking forward to. Let's start with Megan.

00:01:46 Megan Antonelli: Oh, uh, well, I'm Megan Antonelli, and I am the host co-host of Digital Health Talks. And I'm excited to be here today and excited to go to five. I don't know how many times I've been. I think I've been to all of them. Maybe I missed the first one. Um, but, uh, the ones in LA, you know, it's it's an easy trip for me. So excited to go.

00:02:09 Janae Sharp: Awesome. John.

00:02:11 John Lynn: Yeah. So I'm John Lynn founder chief editor at Healthcare IT today and founder of Swade Health. So healthcare it today is a health IT a community of professionals content, podcasts, videos uh create a lot of health content and sway Health is our healthcare marketing community. We have an annual conference as well, uh, designed for healthcare, B2B marketers, but also provider organizations as well. I've been to all of them. I don't know how many there's been, so I can't remember. But I have been to all of them, whatever that number is. Uh, so yeah, I've certainly seen all the evolution. Uh, you know, I've been to all the health's before that. So, uh, yeah, been part of the whole journey and progress. I think the thing I'm most looking forward to, the answer is always the same for conferences. And that's people. If you have the right people, you know, it kind of doesn't matter if it's over five hundred people. Like if you have the right people, it's good. Right? And, you know, considering I don't know how many does Viv have? Five thousand. Ten thousand. I don't know where they're at these days, but, uh, that's enough to find good people.

00:03:14 Janae Sharp: Hopefully you can find good people if there are ten thousand people there. Right.

00:03:17 John Lynn: You would hope.

00:03:18 Janae Sharp: Yeah. All right, Cherise, tell us about your your hopes, dreams.

00:03:24 Shereese Maynard: Hopes and dreams. I don't know, um, healthcare is not where I place my dreams, but hopes. Definitely. Um, I'm Shereese Maynard, and I am a healthcare strategist. I've been doing this for twenty five years now, and, um, I love this industry. Um, what I'm looking forward to advise is the same thing. I always go with the hope of finding something new and different. Um, so I do want to, while I'm there, find something new, different that I haven't seen before. And I'm very hopeful that that's going to happen. We'll see. I'm also this year looking forward to, I think, um, talking to John and Colin about like things like Best in Show and that type of thing because I love, um, competition among booths and, um, that type of, you know, it just excites me to see what people are doing, um, in the space. So I'm looking forward to that.

00:04:17 Janae Sharp: Oh, yeah, I love that. Like the creativity and the things people create. And I like that. We all need people, you know, and that connection and the learning, they're thrilling. I want to talk a little bit more about that. Like why are events like this important? Like they're expensive. It's time consuming. And yeah, I love them. Like I love going I love meeting people super extrovert. But like, why are they important like for you or for other people? For our audience?

00:04:45 John Lynn: Well, it's fascinating to me is how they've evolved. Right. If you think even twenty years ago, kind of early internet days, the only way you discovered new innovation, new technology, new solutions was to go to conferences. And so you would go to the conference to discover, like Cherise wants to do, right? But that was the only way, right? You couldn't just go to ChatGPT and say, what are the ten solutions I should implement in my health system, which, you know, now we can write like.

00:05:13 Janae Sharp: And so they might be good. That might be not. We don't know.

00:05:16 John Lynn: Well you could ask it, you know, do you get good answers a different different question. Right. But uh, you know, and so, you know, we have this plethora of information, we can demo every single solution before we even go. We can do all of that stuff beforehand. And so to me, what how have the events evolved? For me, it's about pressing the flesh, right? It's about connecting to the human and the humans behind a company to understand. Okay, I see your solution has a good solution that could help me, but do I trust the company? Because if I'm going to get into bed with you the proverbial bed and invest my, you know, dollars in your company, do I trust your future vision and where you're headed? Do I trust the people to actually execute what your marketing materials say because I've already, you know, vetted the fact that you could help me. Now I want to know who is the company, who is the organization behind it, and build that trust. And that's what's hard to do virtually, I think. But you can do it in person is understand the culture of an organization, the people behind it maybe talk to their customers as well.

00:06:20 Janae Sharp: Yeah, that's.

00:06:20 Janae Sharp: That's a good point. You can talk to their customers and find out what people think. You know, and I think that's the greatest refers.

00:06:26 Megan Antonelli: Back to what you said, John, is is the people. Right? I mean, that's the people face to face talking about what they've done, what they haven't done, what's worked, what hasn't worked. And I mean, I love that around the culture of the companies. Right. Because you can put whatever you want on the website. You can have ChatGPT write it up. But when you see what the culture of those companies are and who's there and and how they how they approach meeting healthcare, right. And healthcare people, um, I think that's, that's super important. But as you know, to that sort of content and learning piece. You know, where we try at our events to continue to make that so important as the event gets larger. You know, having that content be the, you know, sort of linchpin of what people go is, is, um, is harder to do. But they do have, you know, they vibe and, you know, has has some great sessions, some great speakers there. Um.

00:07:22 Janae Sharp: Yeah. Which sessions is everybody looking forward to? I was looking it over. There are a lot of people I know on there, you know.

00:07:29 Janae Sharp: Yeah.

00:07:30 Megan Antonelli: I mean I'm excited. Oh go ahead.

00:07:33 Shereese Maynard: No, I was just going to say that I'm going to anything that has to do with governance. I think I've seen enough people talk about AI, talk about the when you were asking about, um, why it's important for people to go to, um, to go to this conference. I think the answer to that question lies in, um, why they're there. So for me, I don't need to see another AI, um, solution. I do want to see how they're managing the process and the governance piece of it. So any session with that piece involved or the revenue cycle, I'm there. That's what I'm going to be.

00:08:04 Janae Sharp: Yeah, I think there's a lot of stuff about AI right now. We've heard we've heard a lot. You know, we even now we have spoiler reels about AI marketing and how if you want to make money, you can just do it. You know, I.

00:08:17 Megan Antonelli: Think the the key and where we've seen the shift is not in the discussion of what's available or what's possible, but what's actually working and what's not, you know, and where people are seeing any value whatsoever and what they've done. Um, so to that end, hearing from the health systems that are a little bit further along in their journey and the lessons that they've learned, I think will be important. So, you know, I think, um, like Houston Methodist, uh, you know, they've been they've been sort of farther along. I'm excited for that session. Um.

00:08:50 Janae Sharp: With Children's Hospital of Los Angeles is also speaking about it, I think, and they've done a lot of work in that space. So.

00:08:57 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. No. And it's interesting, you know, there's a lot of California speakers on the program. Um, there's a very, you know, sort of big contingent coming. So that's nice because they don't always make it every place else. So. Um, also on the policy.

00:09:13 Janae Sharp: They don't want to leave the nice weather. Yeah. I, you.

00:09:15 Megan Antonelli: Know, and Orlando is a tough it's a tough haul from, from Southern California for sure. So.

00:09:20 Janae Sharp: Right. The Southern California people are like, no, we live in heaven so couldn't get here. John, you said something interesting though earlier, um, about AI and about some of that content that I thought about the cycle.

00:09:36 John Lynn: I mean, it's going to be interesting to see, I would say even more than the sessions is the side conversations around AI. Right? And what the CIOs are really saying when it comes to how they're approaching AI, where they're burnt out, where, you know, some of the governance stuff that Cherise talked about, you know, how are they governing all the options? Because the problem is this that every CIO would love to have like five AI vendors, right? Like one for radiology, one for RCM, whatever. Right? Like, you know, like that's it. Like I want five, you know, AI vendors. But the problem right now is they need about two hundred because there's two hundred point solutions that could all benefit the organization. And so they're in this weird period where there's no all in one solution that they can just turn to for all of their RCM AI needs, although there's some working on that they're trying to become.

00:10:27 Janae Sharp: There's some people who say they do it. No offense Microsoft, sorry, we should edit that out.

00:10:31 John Lynn: There's a lot of them that are.

00:10:32 Janae Sharp: We love them. But yeah.

00:10:34 John Lynn: And RCM may be the most sophisticated. Maybe radiology in there as well. Um, on the clinical side though, not yet at all, although we're seeing a bit of an evolution. And this is one of the exciting things I want to see from from Viv and then hims afterwards as well, is, you know, how are the AI medical scribes, ambient clinical voice technologies, how are they evolving? And we've seen some hints. I've seen some embargoed stuff, even that I can't talk about here, but of where they're headed as far as expanding to become a full AI assistant, that is really interesting, and I think we'll see that on full display at Vive.

00:11:11 Janae Sharp: Yes. You know.

00:11:12 Shereese Maynard: one other thing

00:11:12 Shereese Maynard: I hope we see is, um, I really, really want to see solutions that can talk about the bottlenecking in, um, health it and removing those barriers. One thing that happened to me recently, you guys know, I was, um, over in Oman, I'm mapping out and doing some stuff there. And one of the solution providers I talked to, um, he was telling us about, you know, all stuff, bells and whistles, and I was like, oh, I feel like it feels like there's going to be some bottlenecks there. Um, and he wasn't able to explain how that that was, that wasn't going to happen. So I was like, let me take this to a health IT vendor in the US. Um, that I know, and it's one we all know that I trust that I love. Um, and so I went to someone inside that organization about their solution, and they told me about it, and I said the same thing. I said. It feels like there's a couple of bottlenecks that could be, um, um, earned or developed from this. Like, um, that wouldn't be a good thing regardless of what problems it solves. How are you guys solving those bottlenecks? And like, there was this long pause from this guy that I consider a mentor who I love, and I was like, hello? So I'm hoping I'm like, because we see a lot of AI solutions right now, right? But it's like if it's solving one problem, are we making sure that it's not creating others? So that's the one of the things that I want to check out with some of the solutions we see.

00:12:35 Janae Sharp: Yeah, the unintended consequences that we don't always know. Yeah.

00:12:38 Megan Antonelli: And we heard a lot. I mean, we heard a lot about both of those things at Health Impact. And I think that, um, there's no doubt that that'll be a lot of the discussion, you know, on the stages here. I'm always very excited to see how they do their stages. Um, you know, the layout, um, you know, using the LA as an event person. The LA, you know, convention center is not the best canvas, so they'll need to get a little bit more creative this year. Um, but they always do a great job sort of enabling that, you know, seeing people meeting people. Um, they've got the, the great, you know, the area where, where they do that, you know, sort of one on one meetings and all of that.

00:13:19 Janae Sharp: So like stepping up the design element is like a major thing that's happened recently, you know, and people don't want to just go to an event with sessions. They want to go to an event that looks cool with cool content.

00:13:32 Megan Antonelli: Right? And they're great at that. So, you know.

00:13:35 John Lynn: The only thing I would argue against that is that it does burn some people. You know, I had a, you know, a CMO one time tell me he's like, John, everyone with an MD after their name hates this. And he was talking about the over production and the whatever. Right. He's like because that money should be going to patients is his argument. And and so like for some people it's actually a bit of a turnoff, right? Yeah, it definitely creates an experience and memorable, and a lot of people love it. But, you know, I think it's a bit of a hit or miss, right? And ironically, I've heard this even about, you know, um, Ms.. You know like epic, right? Same thing. Right. Their, their buildings are these magical crazy place. And a lot of them are like, do we need to be spending that money? That's patient money, right? So, you know, it is interesting. There's a bit of a both you know, some people love it. Some people are a little, you know, concerned by it.

00:14:26 Janae Sharp: But yeah, there is that.

00:14:28 Megan Antonelli: Although I will say and not to pick on epic, but their carpet at the HEMS booth is amazing. And what they have to lay down.

00:14:36 John Lynn: And sleep.

00:14:37 Megan Antonelli: On that they have to spend on that carpet. But long before health and and Viv came along, was, you know, more than we could possibly even imagine, which it always, you know, as that sort of parallel between is there value in these events? Are we bringing value by bringing people together to drive this innovation forward? We're spending so much money and there is no doubt so much waste that happens. Um, but, you know, given my career choice, I do believe that the bringing the home, home, bringing together the people drives, drives the conversation that drives that innovation. But yeah, it is it is tough to to see.

00:15:13 Janae Sharp: But yeah, the balance of conspicuous conspicuous consumption is always off putting for some people. And the sensory overload too. I do think I like that Vive includes patient communities and physician communities and nursing. That's nice that those groups are always represented there. Um, I want to talk a little bit more about strategy hims and vive, like you were talking about how things look, you know, the carpet, but more generally taking a step back, like what are the what are the best strategies for attending Vive or Hims? Did everyone hear I expect the best advice I've ever gotten.

00:15:50 Shereese Maynard: Oh my God, I've got great advice because I live and breathe this stuff every year when I go to these conferences, it drives me nuts. The best advice I could give to people, um, with the booths and that type of thing is, please, for God's sake, train your staff before they man a booth because that is such to me, an incredible waste of, um, revenue. If you're spending that kind of money to build out this amazing booth, and then everybody in it is sitting there on their phones or talking to each other instead of, um, people that are visiting. I see that so often. I'm like, what? This must be costing them? And I always imagine the debriefing that goes on after, um, a conference to say, hey, we didn't do as well as we thought we'd do. Why do you think that is? And I always wonder how those people answer those questions. It's like, oh, well, you know, I had to look at my dog on Facebook for an hour so I couldn't possibly talk to a customer.

00:16:40 Janae Sharp: You know, we couldn't possibly meet with people because we had our all company dinner. Yeah.

00:16:46 Shereese Maynard: So I always wonder why. Because it's so, to me, widespread. I'm like, do they actually get the, um, talk or the training they need before they man a booth to say, this is how we expect this to be run. This is, you know, this is our why, and this is what we expect from you while you're there and how it's going to be run. I don't think that happens a lot. Um, and it probably needs to. And also, one of the things I wrote a piece about engaging with the media before we even get to the conferences, because some of them at the booths, you'll hear, they'll say things like, oh, we don't I don't feel comfortable talking to the media. Well, why the heck are you here? You know, your brand needs the visibility, and we want to know what's going on with your solution. Someone needs to tell us, you know. So I always wonder if, like, who has those conversations? How often is it done and who reinforces it once they're there? Because if I'm standing in a booth and everybody's talking to their booth mates, um, or on their cell phones, it doesn't help me get the information out about the solution. And I cannot imagine they're getting their money's worth when they get back to the office and say, hey, how do we do?

00:17:53 John Lynn: Yeah. I have to often remind myself that a lot of people working the booths are just doing a job. They don't actually care about the solution or the industry or any of that. Right? And and then, you know, salespeople are the worst for media, right? Because you're not in their target market. You're not in their region. Like, you know, you're done, right? So, you know, it is interesting how many missed opportunities there are. Yeah. From what you said. So having your booth prepared and trained and even just referring them to who the right person is to talk to if they're not the right person, it seems like a reasonable request of a salesperson to be able to do that referral. Right. And and point you the right direction. Uh, what's also interesting is hims and vibe are very different. Hims does have a lot of booth traffic. And, you know, I think more people walking around, whereas vibe doesn't as much. Right. Vibe is more about the hosted buyer meetings. The, uh, I think they call it provider and payer connect. Uh, and so, you know, the sway health community has, has said very, you know, strongly that the most valuable thing at vibe is that provider payer connect where you can meet a bunch of people you know, and Hims has done some of that as well. But hims you do get a broader audience with more of the traffic through through it. And a lot of them might be partners. So some people, you know, either love or hate that, depending on your organization. Right. But, uh, you know, you do get the higher boost traffic, I think, at hims than you do at Vive. I mean, it's a larger event, just pure numbers wise as well. Uh, but you do have to like Sherry said, filter like is this press is this partnership, is this customer, is this whatever. Right. And how are we going to approach those different audiences as we engage with them? Uh, and it is interesting you said about the, uh, company dinner sometimes that's valuable, especially these days. Right. So virtually. And if that's how you want to invest that you can. Right. But it is funny when they say, oh, we did our company dinner, but we didn't meet any prospects. And you're like, well, you kind of made that choice.

00:19:48 Janae Sharp: Yeah. Like pick a lane. Pick a lane.

00:19:50 John Lynn: You know, bring your company together, have them bond, have them collaborate. That's valuable too. But just don't be surprised you're not getting customers if you're not going around to the parties and meeting where the customers are. Yeah.

00:20:00 Janae Sharp: Yeah. I also like what you're saying.

00:20:02 Shereese Maynard: The private events I have, um, had more luck with the private. Like the dinners and the, um, the lunches, the private lunches and stuff. Um, I like them. So if people are using them for the right type of engagement, it's one thing, but it's another thing. It's just like, um. Oh, we're just going to throw this party and so people can get to know us. That's not the reason to have a dinner or a party, that type of, um, industry event. But again, if you're not educated about that, you're going to do it wrong and it's not going to work out.

00:20:36 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. Well, and I, I mean, I think it does come down to obviously, you know, they send their whole teams, they send sales, they send marketing, they send their product people and the the way and the value for each of those people is different. Right. And how they're going to be able to get, you know, get value out of it. But I think there's also this perception that even big conferences, you know, uh, it's all about lead gen, you know, scan the badge, get, you know, what a waste of time. I mean, they're already in the system. Like, if you have a conversation with someone, have a conversation with someone, get to know them, understand them, and build that relationship. Don't scan my badge like either you know who I am or I'm not, and you're going to remember it. You put me into the system. You already got the list. Like you don't need to scan the, you know, and but people just, you know, it's like, oh, can I do that? Can I do that? It's like a, you know, it's just what they used to do. And so they feel like that's what they need to do. And I think it's training people outside of that. Right. That there's some sales people that should come, and they should literally be learning about who is there and how these people, you know, talk to each other and what their business needs are. And that is, you know, there's no better place to do that than a place that everyone is at. And to get to that understanding so that you can meet your customers where they are. but, um, it's just so few, uh, companies actually look at it that way and take that approach because they think in the sort of quantified numbers of, of how to attribute ROI to that, you know, big, big spend that they put behind them.

00:22:10 Janae Sharp: They want to show they were working at the conference. You know, they don't want to be.

00:22:15 John Lynn: The best advice is build relationships, not leads. But, you know, it turns out relationships are harder to quantify, you know, because they do take time.

00:22:24 Janae Sharp: Right? Right. It's harder. It's harder to explain a relationship and it takes longer. I do think a lot of people are looking for better relationships with vendors now, and I, I like what you said to everyone. We need to plan in advance, you know, have the meetups like go and meet people. All right. Top three must.

00:22:46 Shereese Maynard: Have your team understand why are you doing it.

00:22:48 Janae Sharp: Like right. You're not.

00:22:49 Shereese Maynard: Going.

00:22:49 Janae Sharp: To buy.

00:22:49 Shereese Maynard: In if you just tell them that they have to show up somewhere you they need to know why they're there. And a lot of times I don't think they do. Just from some of the conversations. Right. It's like, do you know why you're doing this? And, um, if you're not telling your team, this is why we're here, this is what we need to get from this, and this is how we're going to measure our success. If that's not done, it's not going. You're not going to get what you need. That's why I said I would love to be a fly on the wall doing any of those debriefing meetings, so I could be the one to say when they start explaining them. Like, I can tell you exactly what you did wrong. I saw you.

00:23:23 Megan Antonelli: Well, and I think the difference between hims and vibe is, you know, and understanding the audience difference and kind of the objectives of the audiences that are there to set your strategy. So, I mean, you know, we're having this conversation maybe a little too late for the listeners, but to have that strategy in advance and ensure that everybody's kind of, you know, understands it and is taking that approach, but that and that they should be different for hims versus a vibe versus a health versus, you know, smaller events.

00:23:53 Janae Sharp: Yes. All right. And as we're wrapping it up, I want to hear what you're most excited about. What's good? Tell me the good news. John, do you want to start?

00:24:06 John Lynn: You know, I'm biased, and I'm kind of blessed with healthcare it today, where in some ways I get to have, like, my own conference within a conference because I have all these really smart, intelligent people come and I get a video, you know, do a video interview with them, and I get asked them whatever I want, right? Like I get to create my own session, I get to create my own, you know, content. And obviously we share it all in healthcare it today. So, you know, for me that is awesome. Just learning from some of the smartest people, uh, you know, and, you know, I'm obviously biased to this, but, uh, we are planning to sway health, meet up at Vive for our healthcare marketing community. So all the healthcare marketers, if you want to come by Media Village on Monday at one p m, uh, you know, it's in three hundred and nine foyer, which I think is just upstairs from the main foyer where they'll have the food. Uh, but, yeah, come by the media village and hang out with the other healthcare marketers. Uh, you know, as we saw with Sway Health, it's like, hey, you stood across from each other for three days. Why don't you guys come and talk to each other? Uh, so it's a great community, so I'm biased to that one. Uh, you know, I love hanging out with other healthcare marketing people in this way. Health community. So maybe that but obviously, you know, I'm just blessed to get to talk to really smart people and learn from them. So yeah, that's what I love most.

00:25:17 Janae Sharp: Yeah, I do love that community. It's like where people start. Yeah.

00:25:24 Shereese Maynard: Yeah, that's the same thing for me. I think what um, I love is, um, meeting the people. Like John said, the mentors I've had in this business, John being one of them, um, my, I call him my big brother, although I believe I'm a little bit older than him, but, um.

00:25:40 John Lynn: Younger, that's the problem.

00:25:42 Shereese Maynard: But also, you know, because I don't get to see these people every day. I see them at conferences. Um, but they've meant a lot to my business, my career. I think the support you get from the different communities, um, and the even the conversations we have about, like, technology and, um, what we're looking forward to. I love having those conversations in person, um, and seeing those people at those places, because to me, it means a lot. And I always come away with, um, advice given, advice taken. Um, and it's just it's nothing like it. It's like it's worth it to me to go to an event in Los Angeles, even though it's Los Angeles. If I'm going to see Megan. John. Um, Leia, um, certain people from the industry, if I'm going to see them, they're all in one place at one time, you know, and get my what I call my hit list in one, you know, um, bite. Um, it's just worth it to me.

00:26:37 Janae Sharp: Yeah. What about you, Megan?

00:26:39 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. I mean, you know, I think for me, it is to some extent, what John said is that we get to kind of create this little experience for ourselves there. That is almost like a mini conference. I think the fun part is that I do see more of the media folks, and more of the kind of marketing folks than I see, because not everybody comes. Those folks don't always come to our our programs and our events. So seeing that that sub, you know, that my friends and familiar faces from that side is always super fun. And, you know, I as an event person, love seeing how it all comes together and what they do, you know, and so they're so good at, you know, really being at the cutting edge of, you know, networking and experiences and, and doing all of that. So I really enjoy it from that perspective. Um, you know, food trucks, those kinds of fun things that they the bells and whistles that the, the vibe and health community always add. Um, so I'm looking forward to all of that. And having you here in LA, no matter how much you don't like it.

00:27:44 Janae Sharp: I'm thrilled to have learned so much and I'm always looking forward to seeing everyone. One p m Monday Media Village. And make sure you share online. For those of us who can't be there. We all want to know. We want your pictures. We want which companies are the best. We want you to say hi and we will keep continuing on and learning new things.

00:28:10 Megan Antonelli: Perfect. Well thank you everybody. Whether you're heading to LA or following along from home, the conversations happening at vibe will shape health, IT strategy and spending for some time ahead. Thank you, John and Therese, for helping us frame what's worth your time and attention. Find us all on major podcast platforms and on LinkedIn, and connect with us at Health Impact Live. If you're at Vive, come find us! We'd love to continue the conversation in person.

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