Join us for a conversation with someone who has actually done the clinical work. Mario Magsaysay started as a bedside nurse in med-surg oncology before moving into clinical informatics, and now leads IS applications for Pomona Valley Hospital Medical Center, where he bridges what clinicians need with what technology can deliver. Fresh from HIMSS 2026, Mario shares what stood out on the show floor, what hallway conversations revealed about where health systems are really struggling, and what he is actively building at his own organization right now. If you are navigating AI, EHR optimization, and operational complexity with limited resources, this one cuts through the noise.
Mario Magsaysay, MBA, MHA, RN, CPHIMS, Information Systems Applications Manager, Pomona Valley Hospital Medical Center
Megan Antonelli, Founder & CEO, HealthIMPACT Live
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00:00:29 Megan Antonelli: Hi everybody. Welcome to Digital health talks. I'm Megan Antonelli, CEO of Health Impact Live, and I am so excited to be here today with a friend who I've met through him, So Cal Mario Magsaysay, which I love to say, Mario is the information systems application manager at Pomona Valley Hospital Medical Center. His path to IT leadership started at the bedside more than a decade as a registered nurse in med surg oncology, before moving into clinical informatics and building a career at the intersection of care and delivery. He brings a perspective that is frankly rare in health IT leadership, and I cannot wait to hear what he took away from Hims and what he's building right now. Mario, welcome to Digital health talks.
00:01:12 Mario Magsaysay: Thank you. Thank you, Megan, for having me.
00:01:14 Megan Antonelli: I'm excited to have you here. You know, as I said, we met on, you know, have we met through him SoCal. And we got to spend a day down at AI med working the booth together, which is great. And I enjoyed talking to you so much there. I thought, well, we should have you on the show for sure and hear about, you know, your journey and kind of what you, um, have brought to Pomona Valley. But, you know, so tell us a little bit about that.
00:01:39 Mario Magsaysay: So yes, um, my, my journey, um, to where I am right now. So basically, as you mentioned, I started as a bedside nurse, um, you know, many moons ago and I'm into technology and so kind of tinkering things and building things. And then my boss, um, at that time said, hey, Mario, we have a small project. Have to, you know. Electron size, our, um, you know, our system, our. Upgrading our system. We used to have a legacy, really old legacy system. Like a, like a dos look like system where it doesn't talk to departments and, and all that. So he said, she said was, um, you know, why don't you join the project? And so, so I joined the project not knowing that, um, joining the project, I was going to be a team lead, uh, leading a project to implement a base based EHR application of Meditech at that time. And, uh, I, you know, I started, fell in love with project and planning and implementing something that's, uh, you know, making a make, making different organization, improving the care delivery. So, uh, so I, I did that, I, um, implemented a bunch of project afterwards and, uh, did clinical informatics, uh, for a bunch of years. And now I'm here in Pomona as a, I as applications manager.
00:03:00 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. So tell us a little bit about Pomona Valley for those of us. You know, I'm familiar with it being here in in Southern California. But around the country they may not be. Tell us a little bit about that health system and, um, even the community it serves.
00:03:14 Mario Magsaysay: Yes. So, so we're, we're, we're located at Pomona Valley. So, um, we're at trauma level one. Um, uh, hospital. We, we're about four hundred plus. Oh, I don't quote me on this. I, I always remember, uh, four hundred plus beds, uh, average census of about two hundred. Um, we have er, uh, ICU surgery. So, um, we. You know, uh, we're standalone system. We're not a part of like Kaiser or, or, uh, or commonspirit or primary healthcare. So we're, we have a bunch of urgent care, uh, as well. And so we, we serve a bunch of, uh, um, I would say Medi-Cal low income population. Um, but, um, yeah, yeah. So it's just a standalone community, uh, hospital.
00:04:07 Megan Antonelli: Yeah, yeah. Um, and that's, you know, I think where Pomona Valley is in terms of the context of Los Angeles, it's just sort of north northeast, right?
00:04:17 Mario Magsaysay: Yes, yes. Uh, it's close to San Dimas, um, West Covina, um, because I'm from Southern California, so it's, it's right.
00:04:27 Megan Antonelli: You just know where it is. Absolutely. Yeah. No. Um, well, we all know where San Dimas is because of the circle K, right? Or at least those of us who are of that generation. But, um, and of course, we got to go, uh, just recently to hims global at, uh, in Las Vegas, which we had a lot, a lot of our SoCal friends were there, which was nice to see. Um, but, you know, tell us a little bit about your experience. You know, I, I'd love to hear, you know, from your perspective as a leader at a, you know, a regional hospital, you know, what you felt in terms of value was there. Um, and just your perceptions of, of kind of what, what's happening and how it's, it's evolving right now.
00:05:11 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah. Good question. So no, I, I really love going to him. I've been going to him since, oh, even pre-pandemic. And, uh, uh, I, I try to attend as much as I can every, every year. Um, you know, there's a lot of things to learn at him. So, you know, whether you're in, um, you know, government policy, whether you're in cybersecurity, whether you're, uh, you know, clinical informatics in it. Uh, so there's a lot of things to learn at him. So, and normally when I go to him, I, I, I do like a different team. So like three years ago, I was focused more on the clinical informatics side. So I did a lot. I attended a lot of clinical informatics session. Um, last year I did Mostly around AI. And this year I did a combination of AI and cybersecurity. So. So there's a lot. And that's why I love going to him because there's. It doesn't matter. What's your, um, what's your preference? There's always going to be something to attend and something to learn new. At hand. Yeah. That's right.
00:06:19 Megan Antonelli: one hundred percent. I was actually just writing up my. You know, kind of recap. And it was, it's really focused on the breadth of. Of the topics that are there. And, and in some ways, you know, it is it is the strength, right? I mean, that it covers everything. And I felt this year's content really did dig, dig deep and have some, some really amazing sessions. And then you're there and you just don't, you know, it's so hard to choose which one to go to because it's no fun.
00:06:46 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah. Sometimes I wish I could split myself because sometimes there's like two, two, two, uh, um, session that I wanted to attend and you just, you just have to choose which, which one you want to do at that time, and hopefully they have some recordings and slides available for the one that you missed, right?
00:07:04 Megan Antonelli: So yes, one hundred percent. Um, in terms of the ones that you did, were there any standout sessions that you really thought stood out to, to sort of be, uh, sort of progressive and new information?
00:07:17 Mario Magsaysay: Oh, I attended, I forgot the name of the session, but it was, it was more on, um, contracting and, and, and, uh, third, third, third party risk assessment, uh, you know. So, um, there was, uh, there was a panel of a couple of CIOs and, uh, one of the enterprise legal counsel that was talking about HIPAA, uh, mentioning that, you know, when, when, when a vendor said something that they're one hundred percent HIPAA compliance, um, you kind of start to think about that twice because HIPAA is not a, like a certification. It's a journey, right? You, you you know, you can never say I'm one hundred percent compliant. You have to work towards making sure that you're one hundred percent or complying with HIPAA. So he that was an interesting take on that. But then he mentioned something about. But you know, he, if he walk around the, the, uh, the showroom, all of the vendor, they will say, yes. Uh, you know, they're one hundred percent HIPAA compliant. So, you know, it's like, that's a pretty interesting take on that. And then he, he, he mentioned about making sure the, how the contract should be, um, um, referenced, you know, when you, when you were working with the vendor, like risk management, um, you know, and, and making sure you have a really good partnership with those vendors. So that was a pretty, really good session because right now at Pomona, what I do is, um, not only that I manage application, I facilitate the, uh, what we call the technology integration and planning committee where, um, we review, uh, requests, Uh, you know, whatever, whatever request it is an application integration with another system. So it kind of helped, um, kind of, you know, reemphasize what we're doing right at right at Pomona. So that's why I really enjoyed that session. But there's a lot, I mean.
00:09:14 Megan Antonelli: So many, you know, and that's, I think one of the things that's so important and a distinction between um, hymns and a little bit and vibe is that it really, I mean, that's tactical information, operational stuff that you really, you know, you need to do your day to day job and for them to be able to sort of cover, you know, the big topics from, you know, keynotes with Jeremy Renner talking about, you know, sort of patients and, and experience and how important that is to, you know, managing contracts with your vendors, which of course is the, is the, is the day to day reality of this job, you know, um, is, is an impressive thing for them to be able to do for sure. Um, and of course, a lot of what people are there to hear about and all the new technologies in terms of ambient and clinical documentation, where were there any, um, particular areas and, you know, sort of the AI, you know, in the hype cycle versus the, the reality of, of what, what you think the promise is, um, that, that you got excited about.
00:10:13 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah. I mean, uh, I mean, the, uh, AI, the, the ambient AI, those are, it really shows a lot of values already, like in improving the workload for clinicians, right? Uh, from the doctors, I mean, they, they're excited about it. We're waiting to see it from the nursing side. I know at Pomona, we're, um, we introduced, uh, what we call, we use Oracle. So it's a clinical AI agent, uh, for our providers, but, uh, we're looking into introducing that to our, um, our nurses, uh, you know, not, not just through position. So, so those are, those are very exciting technology that, that could definitely help with physician burnout, depression, burnout. Improve the workflow and hopefully. Provide more time for the position to be available at the bedside for the patient. Right. So those are some of the exciting technology. There's a couple of, uh, um, you know, technology about, uh, like, uh, I, I attended one session where it, uh, they had a, um, a study on the, uh, AI being used in radiology to help detect mass and tumor and bleed, uh, that, that, you know, kind of supplement the clinician to say, hey, you know, um, looks like this is the, uh, what do you call it? The potential impression, but then please validate and make sure that it's correct. So those are, those are lot, lot of exciting technology that's coming with AI.
00:11:52 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. And as a, as a nurse and, you know, in your past lives in terms of bringing what do you bring to that? Um, when you're looking at sort of the, you know, as these technology companies, as you said, sometimes they say we're one hundred percent HIPAA compliant. We are using AI to fix the workflows. You know, is there a, what is your, what, what, what do you hear when they really say that? And what questions do you ask to see? Is this real?
00:12:22 Mario Magsaysay: Yes. And that those are good questions. I mean, uh, it's like, it's kind of like a double edged sword, right? There's certain values that they will bring to the organization, but then there's a downstream impact like any other, like any other technology letter let out any, uh, any changes. There's always something like what are we missing? Right? So like with, with, with the get a genetic AI, I mean, how are we going to handle an AI agent? Uh, when it comes, you know, accessing our EHR? What's that audit look like? Right. Uh, when when a when a clinician use an AI and say, you know, um, you know, I don't know where Oracle or, or whatever that is, uh, order me CBC, BMP lab, a chest X-ray was is that a telephone order? Is that a verbal order? Is that, is that does that need to be authenticated? Um, what what does look like? Right. Uh, what, what's the regulatory and, you know, rules and regs that we need to update because of that. Is that considered a, you know, does the, does that need to be authenticated by position? Right. So those are the things that like, mm. Maybe we need to kind of, okay, how, how do we anticipate those, uh, when we ask an AI agent to say, hey, uh, only the charge of, you know, Jeremy, you know, like a VIP patient, how do we audit that? And how do we, I mean, do we tie that to the clinician who asked the agent or is that a agents from the auditing perspective? So those are the things that kind of like operationally, how do you handle right? The the technology is moving so fast that we need to catch up governance, uh, policies and auditing and how do we provision these AI agent? I mean, so those are the things that we kind of need to take kind of pass a little bit and think about what do we do then?
00:14:12 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. I mean, it's that difference between kind of what's possible and practical. And then as you said, you know, HIPAA. When, when did Hipa come out like nineteen ninety eight. Right. And so we're still on that journey. Every organization is still on that journey of evolving and kind of interpreting what that means as new technologies are introduced to that. And then with, you know, as you look at AI and that journey of what does it mean to implement? What does it mean to have effective governance? And that all that lie, I mean, it does, it's, it's, it gets to be like, if you give a mouse a cookie, right? I mean, if you give healthcare a cookie, you know, we're definitely going to over complicate it. We're going to want it. But we've got to, you know, you know, and there's going to be another cookie down, down the way that you think about it and like, it just becomes more and more questions of how do you do this and how do you do it? Well. Um, you know, so there's no shortage of that in terms of like where you work in, in sort of across looking at EHR optimization and integration and analytics within a community hospital, go to a conference like hims or anywhere throughout the, you know, throughout the course of that, you know, sometimes I sort of think, you know, is this relevant to all health systems? Where are the health systems, you know, when you're talking about community health systems versus large academic medical systems, there's a big, you know, there's a gap, there's a difference when when you see that, when you hear some of these, you know, sessions or, you know, people talking, what's the, you know, what do you think about in terms of your own organization and the realities there?
00:15:41 Mario Magsaysay: Yep. I, you know, I, I'm always in awe. I was like, oh my God, if we have all these, the resources and, and bandwidth and, uh, you know, you know, financial resource available, we cannot do all of this. So yeah, sometimes I'm, you know, kind of jealous and envious, right? I was like, wow, they can do that. And, you know, uh, with, with, with a community hospital, it's like real reality, right? We have to manage our budget wisely and we gotta put it to be able to support the day to day operations. So trying to rationalize and invest on a technology that we don't know the value it's going to bring eventually, it's a little bit difficult. So yes, so, um, it, but, but it helps kind of inspire us to say, you know, um, they were able to do this because, and as a result, it saved them this much money, right? So then we, it kind of helped us like, well, maybe we should look into that, especially if we're having that same issue as well, right? If we're, if we, if we it will it will be able to save significant money by introducing certain technology. Then by all means at least, at least they started already started the. Those large organizations started the journey, started showing the the ROI already. Yeah. We don't have to go through that anymore. Right? Now the challenge though, um, because some large organization, they can, they can build the AI, they can build the technology because they have the resource from a small community hospital. I mean, it's, it's, that's not a reality. We, we have to find a partner that can help us.
00:17:30 Megan Antonelli: Mhm.
00:17:30 Mario Magsaysay: Not only build that model, build that technology and also partner with us in the long run. So that's a challenge. Challenging part.
00:17:39 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. But that's also another benefit of having those kinds of communities and conferences is to build those, you know, those partnerships. And certainly there are a lot of interest in, you know, you know, pilots and how we can how technology companies can kind of help community health systems can overcome some of these resource gaps, right? I mean, those resource gaps are, you know, certainly even big academic medical systems feel it in their own in their own way. Right. Um, but it is, uh, you know, it's a, that partnership or that ability to do that, you know, and also just to learn from what they, what they've done. I guess when you look around and you see, um, what people have done and maybe where some of these implementations aren't getting value. Are there any things that jump out to you and say, you know, I don't think I'm going to do that or we're going to definitely wait to do that because yeah, there.
00:18:31 Mario Magsaysay: And you know, there's a lot of those. Um, but really, really before you introduce the technology, um, you gotta understand what problem are you trying to solve? I mean, is it, is it your EDI throughput? Is it your, um, is it your surgery turnaround time? I mean, so before you even look at, uh, AI to fix a problem. Because, I mean, if you if you ask AI a problem, it will fix it, right? But is it really your problem? Is it really affecting the organization and how, how high is that priority? Right. Um, I mean, if well, I guess like any other hospital organization, the priority is like, how do we keep our operation staying in the black and not being in the red, right? I mean, I think that's the biggest problem. And, and I, and there's a lot of companies like, yeah, we, you know, we can come to your organization and save you millions of dollars. Um, I don't think that's the right approach yet. Right. But, but I think, I think you, you need to kind of understand from a strategy perspective, what is the problem that we're having? That's, that's eating a lot of our revenue and how do we address it? Right? I mean, operation is probably the big one. So that the whole, you know, uh, helping with helping clinicians with, We did with the documentation. Yeah. That will that that will help. Help with your labour. That will help with your with your overtime. That would help with your resource and turnaround time turnover with your, with your staff. So that is a, that's a true technology that will, that will provide real, real good value in your organization, right? Uh, so I think you start there and then the rest, then you prioritize based on what other problem the organization face, right? You know?
00:20:20 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. No, I think, you know, a lot of, a lot of watching technology be implemented in healthcare and, and the cycle of the hype cycles of the, you know, the innovation comes and sometimes it's, you know, trying to find the problem that the technology can solve because healthcare has got so many problems. It's not that hard. But, you know.
00:20:39 Mario Magsaysay: I mean, where do we start?
00:20:40 Megan Antonelli: Right? And so, so you can do that, but then you wonder, you take a step back and you say, okay, are we solving, you know, are we solving the right problems at the right time? Are we, you know, and have we prioritized this? Right. And sometimes, especially with the workflow discussion, you know, it's a question of are we, you know, are we automating things that we shouldn't even be doing in the first place? You know, and it becomes, again, you know, you get into that journey where once you, you see what's possible and then it's like, well, should we even be doing it? You know? And, you know, it's a constant innovation cycle, basically of, of improvement.
00:21:15 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah. And it kind of brings me to like my CIO, he always said, you know, automation is not a bad process, right? So, I mean, it's just going to kind of probably make it bigger or faster, right? So, so I think you need to fix, you know, people process platform, right? So sometimes platform is not going to fix any people issues or process issues, right? So we gotta, we gotta fix that those too. So I have all three of them have to align.
00:21:41 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. And I heard that a lot last week, which was sort of, uh, healthcare doesn't have a technology problem. It has people process technologies that or people process problems that technology can help with, but we have to make sure we're solving for the right. You know, the right problem. You know.
00:21:57 Mario Magsaysay: This technology is going to make those people and process faster problem faster, right?
00:22:03 Megan Antonelli: And you don't necessarily want to amplify the problems, right? I think interesting, and I think, you know, we saw a lot around, you know, interoperability and the challenges with interoperability that have happened for for years. And then you have kind of the in terms of data exchange and what, you know, if you don't have great data, you don't have great data, you know, and it doesn't matter if it's interoperable. Part of that is, you know, it becomes a challenge from your perspective, because I know you work a lot in informatics. Where do you see the, you know, sort of what's the right thing to focus on right now given, you know, the more you automate of the data that you have, you know, you can get into it.
00:22:43 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah. You know, one oh my God, with meaningful use. Uh, when, when I implemented Mingleeart, there's like, okay, we need to enter, we need to send the data to the next provider so that the data is available for them. So it becomes like, you know, I think we, maybe we were, we try to do it too fast and we try to make it like checkbox. Yep. I'd send it, but whatever that looks like, whatever, whether that's meaningful, whether it's interoperable, whether it's structured, that's going to be their problem now, right? Right. And so now we got, oh, it's not about the issue. It's not really just, oh, yeah, we, we can't interoperable, we can't we can't exchange data. Yes, we can exchange data. The problem is the data is not structured and meaningful for the clinician to use. So it's like we're getting this ton of data whether it's the right time, right patient. I mean, probably the it's getting close to the right patient now, but it's just so much that it's not, it's not meaningful when you get this, you know, like a binder of information about a patient. How do you navigate around that and say, okay, which part of this I'm going to use for my patient to take care of patient properly, right? So, so it now we need to find a way to make it structured right. Find a way to make it meaningful for the clinician. Find a way so that it, it's, it, it makes sense, right? It's not just a checkbox. I sent a data. Now it's your problem.
00:24:15 Megan Antonelli: And healthcare loves our check boxes, right? And I think around, you know, right around meaningful use. I mean, that was sort of the, you know, the, was it the checklist manifesto or it was.
00:24:27 Mario Magsaysay: Yes.
00:24:27 Megan Antonelli: You know, but, you know, I mean, all the patient safety and quality and in those contexts, yes, checking the box is the right thing to do. And you want to do that. But around sort of technology implementation and what meaningful use meant versus meaningful outcomes, right? It was like, we just need this here. Are we really thinking about the end game? And I, I think as I talk to people around the country that the lessons learned from the HR implementation are certainly informing this new transformation around AI, right? In that they they recognize that they did move a little fast. They didn't involve all the right people. Now, I think there's a lot more of making sure nurses are at the table, making sure doctors are at the table to ensure that this technology not only solves the right problem, but is the, you know, we're implementing it at the right pace, you know, and, you know, as we talked about before, the more questions that the more people you have at the table, more questions you have and it slows things down. But that's the right thing. You know, when you're talking about something so transformational.
00:25:27 Mario Magsaysay: And I think, I think, um, yes, we learn from those mistakes and we're including nurses now and clinicians and more clinicians on the table, not just technologists. Uh, we're letting the clinician drive, not the technologies to drive, right? So we let, we let the people that's on the bed at the bedside living the, you know, process day to day. Decide on what's best for the patient. So that's that's a good thing.
00:25:53 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. So when you look at, you know, kind of what we talked a little bit about this, but like you were at hims, you saw these technologies, you come back to Pomona Valley, you know, you work on kind of IaaS applications and driving the clinical and operation. What do you look at that you're going to you know, this is what we need to focus on. What were your you know, this is, you know, or or was it more affirmation of we're focusing on the right things? So what's, what's the. I went to the conference and now I'm going to do this, uh, next steps. No.
00:26:25 Mario Magsaysay: No, I think yes. Well, as I mentioned, I think we're looking at the, uh, the clinical AI agent to be implemented to the nurses as well, not just for the provider. So that's, that's happening at the moment. We're, we're, um, updating our, uh, what do you call it? Identity management system to, to make it a little bit more streamlined and automated. Uh. Using a new system that has an AI component and up to date. So. Um, and this is so that we not only secure our, our environment, making sure that the clinician have access to the system that they need on day one, using role based access management. Um, but also, um, you know, uh, be more efficient improving that process. Right. So not not having, um, a lot of manual process done, uh, for provisioning. So we're doing that and then we're, we're also working on our, um, uh, changing our, uh, what do you call it? Uh, bed management system, uh, with a more robust system that has an AI component as well with predictive analytics. So we're, those are the things that we're doing, um, that I know that will bring value to the organization.
00:27:44 Megan Antonelli: Yeah. No, all, all super important that identity management piece to it. You know, it's, it's that friction point for clinicians to sort of reduce friction so that they can then, you know, have that efficiency and improve workflows for sure. You know, and there's just so many steps along the way where there is friction, you know, you want to reduce it as much as possible for sure.
00:28:04 Mario Magsaysay: Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, with me as an applications manager, I, what, what I'm looking for eventually is a, I mean, yeah, we do a lot of integration with that one application to another application. Um, but sometimes we miss the deeper integration. When I say about the deeper integration, meaning it's almost like seamless single sign on Ldap, your, your ident, you know, it's not, it's not logging into another application. It's making make making that, completing that clinical workflow. And so I think there's definitely some improvement with some of the vendors that we're working on. Um, and some vendors are actually getting better and kind of going to that saying, okay, yeah, we need to be Ldap sync or Saml authentication somewhere where it, it, it's, it's a single sign on it uses your ID credential. Um, when you're, when you're logging. So I'm hopeful for that. I think it's, it's getting better. Uh, when, when I first joined Pomona, there was a lot of challenge with that. And I, you know, I, we kind of fix it along the way.
00:29:12 Megan Antonelli: But yeah, well, it happens when there's so many systems involved too. And then you have departments and different tech and all of that. So but you know, vendors getting better is a good thing. We, uh, always, we have a segment called five good things that we talk about sort of five good things that happened in the last month or so. Uh, so we always like to end our digital health talks interview on, you know, kind of what you're most excited about in the next few years, in the next, you know, a few months in terms of just sort of what's good and what's coming for, for healthcare, sometimes we get bogged down in the negative. So we like to end up on the positive.
00:29:49 Mario Magsaysay: No, I think AI, I mean we talk about the the benefits of AI, right? Um, I, I think those are five good. I mean, the value that it can bring to the organization. Those are like the AI, the ambient AI, those are good things coming as long as we know how to manage it accordingly and understand the risks and all that. Uh, I think, uh, interoperability works to do, but I think it's there, we got the data. Now we need to figure out how we're going to make it structured, right. Um, uh, I think interoperability, uh, I'm sorry, uh, integration. We just need to find a vendors are getting better, deeper integration. So we just need to, uh, work towards that. Um, and, uh, yeah, we just need, I think vendors are getting better, uh, hopefully knock on wood, uh, or if they're not getting better, don't partner with them. Sorry. Just kidding. And so, uh, what else? Um, and, and technologies, I mean, I, I think overall, I think we're from the it perspective, I think we're getting better. Um, we're slow, uh, in health i.t compared to other industry. But, um, uh, some of the IT leaders that I met, uh, are, are very knowledgeable with the clinical side and healthcare side. So I'm very impressed with that. So, um.
00:31:17 Megan Antonelli: Yeah, no, I think that slow and smarter, right? You know, slow is always going to be the case because you just can't rush things like this. And so slow is okay as long as we're smarter. And I, I agree, I think people are, they're getting smarter. The technology vendors are getting more knowledgeable about the complexities of healthcare. And as you know, it couldn't be at a more important time because the technology is moving so fast. So well. Thank you so much. It's always a pleasure chatting with you and hearing about your work and kind of, you know, the unique perspective you bring to it. So thanks for joining us.
00:31:51 Mario Magsaysay: Thanks.
00:31:52 Megan Antonelli: All right. Well, thanks so much. This is exactly the conversation our listeners need more of. The view from a community hospital, from someone who has delivered care and now builds the systems that support it. That perspective is invaluable and too often missing from the bigger stage. For listeners who want to connect with Mario, you can find him on LinkedIn or at a regional So-cal hymns event for sure. Um, and then for health impact, you know where to find us at Health Impact live. And if you enjoyed today's chat, please subscribe to Digital Health Talks wherever you get your podcasts and follow the Health Impact Live YouTube channel. For more conversations with leaders shaping the future of healthcare technology. We'll see you next week.
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